Arrogant critics of the Guardian are all too fallible

A recent comment on You Tube really makes me laugh.  The You Tube video is about the identification of the remaining 5 elders (of the 24 elders) by Joel B. Marangella, the third Guardian of the Faith.

The comment by a heterodox believer says:

“hahaha. this is just funny and shows how little knowledge these people and their so called guardian have. Abdu’l-Baha himself named Ḥájí Mírzá Muḥammad-Taqí as one of the 24 elders. “so in this letter joel or joe or whoever the so called guardian is, have managed to go aginst the very word of Abdu’l-Baha and omit Ḥájí Mírzá Muḥammad-Taqí as one of the 24 elders. Good job Joe.”

This is so typical of the misinformed. They arrogantly correct us when they do not have their facts straight.

I think the mislead commentator is confused by the wrong statement of Adib Taherzadeh in his book: The Child of the Covenant, p. 240 in which he wrote:

“The Vakilu’d-Dawlih was a distinguished believer who was designated by ‘Abdu’l-Bahá as one of the ‘four and twenty elders which sat before God on their seats’ mentioned in chapter 11 of the Revelation of St John the Divine. [Of the other 23 ‘elders’, only 19 have been named by ‘Abdu’l-Bahá i.e. the Báb and the 18 ‘Letters of the Living’.]”

It seems that Taherzadeh has repeated the mistake of one of Persian writers who has quoted only a short section from one of Tablets of Abdu’l Baha to an individual immediately after the title “Chapter forty one – about the twenty-four elders mentioned in the Book of Revelation”:

(Translation): “You have questioned regarding the pentad blessed persons; one of them is Haji Mirza Muhammad-Taqi, the Afnan, four others will be explained later” and then another section from another Tablet from Abdu’l Baha in which He explains:

“Regarding the four and twenty elders, they are they Bab, the 18 Letters of the Living and five others who would be known in the future.”

22 years after ascension of Abdu’l Baha the first Guardian said: “So far we do not know who these five other are”:

“Regarding the four and twenty elders: The Master in a Tablet, stated that they are the Bab, the 18 Letters of the Living and five others who would be known in the future. So far we do not know who these five other are.”

(Shoghi Effendi, Directives from the Guardian, p. 21) also (Baha’i News, No. 171, November 1944, p. 2)

If Haji Mirza Muhammad-Taqi, the Afnan (Vakilu’d-Dawlih) was one of the “elders” probably Abdu’l Baha would have mentioned that in the “Memorials of the Faithful” when He wrote about him (page 128) and surely Shoghi Effendi would have not said “So far we do not know who these five other are”

Vakilu’d-Dawlih was named one of Apostles of Baha’u’llah.


(Thanks to Hand of the Cause of God Nosrat’u’llah Bahremand for his assistance with this article)


My Dear Bahá’í Friends!

Some of the friends enquire as to why the Divine Cause (Bahá’í Faith) has become divided into different sects?  What are the factors behind it?   Who is responsible for this division?

It is well understood why such questions should come to mind.  But it is sad that there is no discussion on such questions nor do we investigate the answers to such questions. While ‘Abdu’l-Bahá insisted that:

“The shining spark of truth cometh forth only after the clash of differing opinions”.
(Abdu’l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu’l-Baha, p. 87)

Friends claim that:

According to the sayings of Abdul Bahá, the “Guardian” should be from the lineage of Bahá’u’lláh.

This is not correct in any way.   Bahá’u’lláh has never placed, or written, any such condition concerning the Guardianship.  In fact, He has only alluded to the Guardianship in His Writings, and it remained for ‘Abdu’l-Bahá to establish the institution of the Guardianship in His Will and Testament.

I request the friends whenever you quote what “Abdul Baha says”, please quote His correct and exact words and do not insert the doubtful ideas of your own mind.

The majorityof the friends are unaware of and lack knowledge of the truth but, on the other hand, accept whatever has been stated by the UHJ, the NSA or LSA and rely completely upon erroneous facts. They do not strive to know any thing other than those confused ideas and attribute those baseless, adverse and confused ideas and facts to Bahá’u’lláh.

In the Writings and Tablets of Bahá’u’lláh and ‘Abdul Bahá, preference is given to impeccability and perfection and it is emphasized that preference should be given to spiritual relationships over physical relationships. Therefore, ‘Abdul Bahá explains the matter as follows:

“The lineage of descendants is of two types one is from physical descendants and the other is spiritual.  One is born of clay and water, and the other from the soul and heart.”
(Ma’idiy-i-Asmani. Vol 5, p. 161)

“O dear one of ‘Abdu’l-Baha! Be the son of thy father and be the fruit of that tree. Be a son that hath been born of his soul and heart and not only of water and clay.  A real son is such a one as hath branched from the spiritual part of man. I ask God that thou mayest be at all times confirmed and strengthened.”
(Selections from the Writings of Abdu’l-Baha, p. 140)

The Friends should note that Assemblies do not have any right to decide or discuss “any matter” outside the powers and responsibilities fixed by Abdul Bahá and Shoghi Effendi.  Then, who authorizes them to either change or falsify the intent of statements made in the “Tablets and Will and Testament” and thereby go against the explicit Holy Text?

They cannot decide that the Guardianship shall continue or not continue in the Bahai Faith, because according to the Will and Testament, the Guardianship of the Cause of God will continue till the end of the Dispensation of Bahá’u’lláh. Even if all the people of the world should stand against him the truth cannot be changed by decision of the people.

As for the current sects in the Bahá’í Faith, this is due to those Baha’is who, following the passing of Shoghi Effendi, stood against the Expounder and Interpreter of the Words of God– “The Guardian of the Faith”– and, unfortunately, the majority of the Bahá’ís blindly followed them. It was far better had they paid attention to the words of ‘Abdul Baha.  For He said:

“Were it not for the protecting power of the Covenant to guard the impregnable fort of the Cause of God, there would arise among    the Baha’is, in one day, a thousand different sects as was the case in former ages. But in this Blessed Dispensation, for the sake of the permanency of the Cause of God and the avoidance of dissension amongst the people of God, the Blessed Beauty (may my soul be a sacrifice unto Him), has through the Supreme Pen written the Covenant and the Testament; He appointed a Center, the Exponent of the Book and the annuller of disputes. Whatever is written or said by Him is conformable to the truth and under the protection of the Blessed Beauty. He is infallible. The express purpose of this last Will and Testament is to set aside disputes from the world.”
(Abdu’l-Baha, Baha’i World Faith – Abdu’l-Baha Section, p. 357)

Further, ‘Abdu’l-Bahá wrote in His Will and Testament:

“The Mighty stronghold shall remain impregnable and safe through obedience to him who is the guardian of the Cause of God. It is incumbent upon the members of the House Justice, upon all the Aghsán, the Afnán, the Hands of the Cause of God to show their obedience, submissiveness and subordination unto the guardian of the Cause of God, to turn unto him and be lowly before him. He that opposeth him hath opposed the True One, will make a breach in the Cause of God, will subvert His word and will become a manifestation of the Centre of Sedition. (Will & Testament of Abdul Bahá page No.12)

My Dear Bahá’í Friend!

Do you now realize why the different sects came into existence among the Bahá’ís?   Do you understand to whom Abdul Bahá has referred to as the Disputer and Creator of the Sects?

It should now be clear from the terms of His “Will” that disobedience to the Guardian and rebelling against him have now caused the several sects to come into existence.

The true Bahá’ís are those who are under the Shelter of the Guardian. The deviated sects are those who have turned away from the true Guardian.

It is my fervent hope that soon all the friends will turn unto the living guardian of the Faith and will be submissive unto him.

Written by Dr. A. Parikh, Secretary of the National (Orthodox) Bahai Council of India
on 27th July 2007.


The following site claiming to be a neutral religions discussion forum is in fact controlled by the interests and agendas of the HAIFAN BAHAI ORGANIZATION and its Bahai Internet Agency. Neutral non-Bahai observers, beware:
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Wahid Azal

The Experience of Larry Rowe with
I was banned from All Beliefs for supposed misrepresentation. My misrepresentations? Referring to the Baha’is who have their world centre in Haifa as Haifan Baha’is. For referring to the Baha’i World Faith as Baha’ism. For putting up a link to Karen Bacquets web page and then being accused of putting up an antibahai link, lol! Anyone who knows Karen knows she is anything but antibahai, she is anti fundamentalism as it concerns the Baha’i Faith but apparently liberal Baha’i views are considered to be antibahai on All Beliefs. When I pointed out that Baha’is refer to themselves as the people of Baha’ as well and that therefore Baha’ists and or Baha’ism are legitimate terms for those that refer to themselves as: the people of Baha’, it was ignored.
It is quite apparent that the only Baha’i point of view which is allowed to be expressed on All Beliefs is the Haifan Baha’i POV. Sad. I communicated with the site owner and he seemed like a fair minded person it is too bad though that he has allowed the Haifan Baha’i clique to take control over the supposedly ‘all beliefs’ agenda of his site and to force him into banning those who express views which are not approved by Haifan Baha’ism or in any way critical of Haifan Baha’ism. To be honest he needs to remove the all from all beliefs.


Larry Rowe

My Experience

I started discussing about the various Baha’i sects and was Banned.

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Reform Bahai Faith

The Reform Bahai Faith has once again been born anew from tyranny and oppression, from essentially the same spiritual upheavals as that of Ruth White, Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, Julie Chanler, and the thousands of Bahais who left in protest under the imposition of an oppressive organization based on the fraudulent will and testament of Abdul-Baha throughout the 1920s, ‘30s, and ‘40s. God has, throughout the decades, preserved the historical record of events for perceptive minds and souls.

Despite all fanatical, fundamentalist attempts to suppress all memory of Abdul-Baha’s vision and interpretation of Baha’u’llah’s Faith, to root it out, to coerce and slander, malign and expell, shun and besmirch the testimony of the Writings and the early believers, the Bahai Movement has continued to endure, quietly persist, giving testimony to the vision of God’s oneness, the oneness of humanity and religion, and the human potential for peace and brotherly love.

The books and publications of White, Sohrab, and Chanler have kept this vision alive, while the Baha’i upheavals and conflicts of the last three decades have led many thousands of Baha’is to experience for themselves the depth and degree to which the Faith of Baha’u’llah has been traduced and desecrated by people who seek to use and exploit it for their own worldly benefit, power, glory, and material gain.

The Divine Being has created a world of impermanence, evanescence, where nothing lasts forever, and all humanity is subjected to the vicissitudes of life, the fragility of health and constitution, the limits of human existence that He alone knows and sets. With an increasing sense of mortality, I feel it is incumbent upon me to set down, in writing, my own testimony of what I believe to be the truth about the Bahai Faith, having now been a member for over thirty years and having watched or participated in many struggles and debates and studied or watched those of many other souls in their search for truth and understanding.

Thinking of Martin Luther and John Wesley, I feel it especially as a duty and obligation to leave a record of my views for the Reform Bahai Convocation, which, God willing, one day, shall convene to restore and revive the moderate, spiritual religion of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha and clearly set a new course away from the fanatical and fundamentalist Islamist sect of the Haifans, based on their fraudulent will and testament, propagating a manipulative creed intended only to coerce the individual believer and subject him or her to the tyranny of an illegitimate and mutilated organization.

Article I

“The Revelation which, from time immemorial, hath been acclaimed as the Purpose and Promise of all the Prophets of God, and the most cherished Desire of His Messengers, hath now, by virtue of the pervasive Will of the Almighty and at His irresistible bidding, been revealed unto men. The advent of such a Revelation hath been heralded in all the sacred Scriptures.” – Baha’u’llah.

Article II

Baha’u’llah’s appointed heir and Interpreter, the Center of the Covenant, is Abdul-Baha.

Article III

As scientifically judged by Dr. C. Ainsworth Mitchell, the purported will and testament of Abdul-Baha is a fraudulent document: “That is to say, the writing does not agree with the hypothesis that it was all written by one person.” “A minute comparison of the authenticated writing with the writing on every page of the alleged will . . . has failed to detect in any part of the will the characteristics of the writing of Abdul-Baha, as shown in the authenticated specimens.” – Dr. C. Ainsworth Mitchell, Report on the Writing Shown on the Photographs of the Alleged Will of Abdul-Baha, Library of Congress, 1930.

Article IV

The Baha’i organizations, based upon the fraudulent document, including the writings of Shoghi Effendi*, are inescapably defective and deficient: “There is apparent contradiction between this section of the Will and his lifelong teachings” (56). “Abdul Baha had never in speech or writing given the slightest indication that there would be a successor to himself. On the contrary, a number of addresses delivered by him on various occasions had made the opposite impression” (61). – Mirza Ahmad Sohrab. The Will and Testament of Abdul Baha, An Analysis. New York: Universal Publishing, 1944.

Article V

The results of the spurious document has reverberated down the generations and decades, as Ruth White rightly perceived: “Whether the alleged will of Abdul Baha is authentic or spurious, the results of the administration of Shoghi Effendi and the National Spiritual Assembly of Baha’is stand as an historical indictment against them. [Boldface in original] They no more represent the Bahai Religion than the bigots of the dark ages of Christianity” (100). – Ruth White. Abdul Baha’s Questioned Will and Testament. Beverly Hills: White, 1946.

Article VI

“The Bahai Movement is not an organization. You cannot organize the Bahai Movement.” – Abdul-Baha. The mystery of that paradox calls all Bahais to seek its meaning and return to the universal, liberal Teachings of Baha’u’llah and Abdul-Baha and their Writings.

Article VII

Far from creating a theocratic tyranny, the Founders of the Bahai Faith taught a moderate, universal, global religion, grounded in a spiritual democracy, teaching the separation of church and state, with science in its own respected domain, each a profound differentiation of social duty and responsibility, as in Abdul-Baha’s “Sermon on the Art of Governance”:

“The religious law is like the spirit of life,
the government is the locus of the force of deliverance.
The religious law is the shining sun,
and government is the clouds of April.
These two bright stars are like twin lights in the heavens of the contingent world,
they have cast their rays upon the people of the world.
One has illuminated the world of the soul,
the other has caused the earth to flower.
One sowed pearls in the oceans of conscience,
while the other has made the surface of the earth a garden of paradise.” (Tr. Sen McGlinn)

Article VIII

With every passing year, the Writings of Baha’u’llah are being restored to humanity, from those who debased and lowered them to the level of a trademark and copyright.

Article IX

Reform Bahais choose to leave those who choose hatred, shunning, and interminable recrimination over the fraudulent will and testament and over stultifying legalisms, and look to the Spirit of brotherhood and love, knowledge and understanding, prayer and meditation, worship and community, service to one’s country and the world of humanity.

With the assurance of Abdul-Baha that humanity has entered the stage of maturity, wherein the individual can independently search for truth, Reform Bahais testify, in this universal, global age, that He reserves for Himself the “hearts of men,” rendering to Caesar what is Caesar’s, as Baha’u’llah taught in the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, accepting and embracing His multifaceted vision, the mystery that surpasses understanding.

Reform Bahais invite all Bahais, all humanity, to a Convocation of celebration, peace, love, and brotherhood, to seek humbly together His Will and service, for the good of all people and nations of this spinning globe.
The Reform Bahai Faith
95 Theses – On Bahai Liberty

0ctober 4, 2007

* Please note that the Reform Bahai Articles do not accept the authenticity of the purported will and testament of Abdul-Baha and, hence, the legitimacy of any guardianship. See Abdul-Baha’s Covenant.

Why is Zoroastrianism under-represented on

If a casual, non-Iranian observer were to stroll into this site and attempt to gauge a perspective on Iranian religions they would quickly form the mistaken impression that after Islam the only other Iranian religion being practiced amongst Iranians was Bahaism. Yet besides Islam or Bahaism Iran has a rich tapestry of various religious views and practices that are neither Islamic nor Baha’i. Zoroastrianism is where Iran and Iranians maintain their historical roots of religious views and practices. But barely is this ancient creed mentioned here. There are countless postings by Bahais promoting their product (only recently less than usual) but barely by the Zoroastrian community talking about themselves. In the interests of balance can longstanding members of the Zoroastrian community kindly step forward and share their perspective and experience. They are the only true ancient Iranian religion of present minority capacity and their views on Iran’s past and future should matter more than any other of the various religious minorities here.

The Role of Baha’i Administration

TThe role of the Baha’i Administration is to fully enslave the new convert, replacing the convert’s social, ethical, spiritual frame of reference. The Hindu religious practices, signs, traditions, and dharma are replaced with photos of Abdul Baha and Baha’i temples. The time tested Hindu spiritual practices are supplanted with borrowed Baha’i slogans.

The convert is liberated from his or her tradition, spiritual practices, ethical norms and social helping networks and is enslave with irrational, blind, dogmatic faith.

The converts must then submit to the monopoly of the Baha’i Administration. Spiritual desires are suppressed and converts are forced to carry the toxic belief system and to serve the true owner, the UHJ. The Counselors and ABMs, in effect functions to consolidate the conversion activity. The Baha’i institutions are used as instruments of personal, family and social control and conditioning. The converts are forced to reject tolerance, pluralism, temple visit, Hindu religious practices and they are permitted no compromise with other divinities, except Bahaullah. The convert must abandon all past spiritual practices and must wholly belong to the new world order. They are psycho programmed to consider Hindus as non-believers or devil worshippers and faith in Bahaullah is the only way for salvation… The converts are brainwashed to consider outsiders as condemned forever.

Any disobedience or questioning of the Baha’i orders either from local national or international bodies are met with administrative or spiritual sanctions. The converts become aliens in their land until delivered by death.

Converting Indian in large numbers

For centuries Indians have been forcefully converted into other religions. Religious conversion has profoundly affected our cultural legacy by the after-effects of genocidal coercive religious conversion. It has left its wounding imprint on our individual psyches and our collective consciousness. Although coercive religious conversion of Hindus in India and abroad has deep historical roots, recent deceptive religious conversion techniques used by Baha’is movements pose serious political, social, ethical and psychological problems. Recently Universal House of Justice, the apex organization of the Baha’i Faith in a new encyclical has issued a call to Baha’is to go out and actively convert Indians. In this era of globalization, Baha’i administration with unlimited funds use sophisticated, deceptive techniques to lure, brainwash and convert innocent people. They forcefully converted Hindus by inducement and deception. Many poor illiterate tribal people in Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh were deceptively converted into Baha’i Faith, although anti conversion law is passed in 11 of the states in India. This will have a disastrous effect on India’s political, cultural and social fabric.