After years of practice, promotion and belief in the Bahai Faith, I ran into a book that stated the fact that Bahaullah was polygamist with three wives.
I could not believe this. I dug more. An explanation from Shoghi Effendi was not convincing. Shoghi stated that Bahaullah was practicing his old Islamic faith and the practice of his old homeland, as Jesus was a Jew before Christianity. The explanation was not convincing for two reasons:
Bahaullah’s first marriage happened prior to the so-called “Babi Dispensation.” However, the second marriage took place after the Babi Dispensation, after the Bab supposedly nullified polygamy, and after Bahuallah’s attendance in the “Badasht Conference” declaring nullification of Islamic laws and beginning of Babi laws. The third marriage took place in Baghdad, after he himself supposedly became a prophet.
The “practice of his old homeland” of polygamy is not that accurate. 19th Century Persians — unlike Arabs — did not customarily or by large practice polygamy, except for among rare wealthy individuals.
I found very many other discrepancies in Bahaism. One other related one is the fact that the Book of Aqdas allows bigamy, while Abdul-Baha tried to cover the practice by promoting monogamy and innovating “equality of men and women.”
Another discrepancy is the general Bahai belief that Bahaullah did not have basic education, and what he acquired was a miracle (like Jesus). This is untrue. He was a son of nobility and did have better education than others.
Reference : http://www.bahai-faith.com/ex-Bahai-1.html
雙魚Feb 2, 2010 12:34 AM
Fancy may kill or cure. …………………………………………….
AnonymousOct 31, 2010 07:46 PM
He was NOT the real successor of the “Bab”.
He was the half brother of Baha’ullah.
Her mother pushed her son and the other friends to try to gain power… His followers poisoned Baha’ullah and trying everything to destroy Baha’ullah family and followers….
Lover of BabDec 14, 2010 11:40 AM
You are totally biased. What are the proofs of all that you said? You are just saying what has been taught to you in your Ruhi Classes. You have been brainwashed. I feel sorry for you.
AnonymousJan 19, 2011 10:14 PM
how is it biased, it is the truth it has not been stated anywhere that mirza yahya was the successor of the bab. Look at all the things that he did to Bahaullah, do you think that it was good? Of course not, Mirza yahya was the arch covenant breaker. Also it doesn’t just say that in the ruhi books it says it in most of the holy writings, so i dont know what your talking about.
Badi19 Feb 7, 2011 01:39 AM
You said Subh-i-Azal was not a good man. The same is said about Baha’u’llah, that he was not a good man.
Do you know that the Thugs of Baha’u’llah murdered so many followers of Subh-i-Azal?
Have you ever visited http://www.bayanic.com/
You will get all the information about Subh-i-Azal and how Baha’u’llah committed crimes against Azal and his followers.
May God guide you towards the right path.
AnonymousFeb 23, 2011 03:50 AM
Don’t tell me about the right path mirza yahya was a covenant breaker as well as his so called followed. Bahaullah did not have thugs. They are called his followers who are known as today as the Baha’is. I do not mean to be rude but please review the writings of bahaullah and the many Baha’i stories, I’m sure you are a knowledgeable person. Bahaullah was a manifestation of god and endured many sufferings including sufferings from his own half brother mirza yahya. He endured those sufferings for humanity. He was a manifestation of and we should all recognize this, please think this over.
NaserMar 4, 2011 08:29 AM
You haifan baha’is are completely ruhi’i’zed. Open your eyes! don’t just follow all what is being taught to you in those Ruhis. The haifan UHJ is taking the benefit of the poor people of your likes. You are completely blind of the Babi history.
AnonymousMar 6, 2011 10:20 PM
oh shut up stop making your own stupid sects its people like you that cause all these problems it plain and simple. A prophet is sent down us to teach us Gods message either take it or leave it but DO NOT CHANGE IT! Its not that hard to understand. The ruhi books are another way of teaching. STOP making your own stupid terms like ‘ruhized’. Grow up! Stop causing problems.
What is in the ruhi books is in line with the teachings of the faith. It is not seperate so stop making seperate. The governing body of the Bahai faith is The Universal House of Justice you know that I know that everyone who is a bahai knows that. All bahai’s are bahai’s there are no sects. STOP causing problems. If religion was the cause of dissension it would be better for it not to exist at all. This is quoted. CREATE UNITY NOT PROBLEMS.
Ya Bahaul Abha.
AnonymousMar 6, 2011 10:25 PM
Oi nasser whats with the ‘haifan UHJ’ what are there other Universal Houses of Justice. Think before you say something. I implore you to read the BAHAI writings which i’m sure are available. Independent investigation of the truth is one of the important things of the bahai faith. Do not listen to others, investigate it for yourself, if the bahai faith is not to your liking, at least do not cause problems!
Naser EmtesaliMar 9, 2011 09:32 AM
“whats with the ‘haifan UHJ’ what are there other Universal Houses of Justice”
There is one another UHJ that I am aware of and I am sure you are also aware of it.
See this : www.uhj.net
AnonymousMar 13, 2011 04:33 AM
No I’m not aware of it and I shouldn’t have to cause there is no such thing as another universal house of justice there is only one. Why to you believe all these different misconceptions and ideas. I don’t understand why you can’t just be a Baha’i. Don’t believe that stuff. I honestly believe you can change your mind. It really upsets me that people make problems and have misconceptions and just can’t create unity. Not that I’m trying to say that I’m superior at all. Do you really think that 7 million Baha’is around the world are believing in something false and that people like you are understanding the truth of the faith. I didn’t want to have to say that but how can I influence people such as your self. You guys are just making things complicated. Mirza yahya was a covenant breaker he did bad things throughout bahaullahs life, yet bahaullah endured them, disentangle that sound updating to you. Bahaullah was trying to teach everyone about the faith the message from god and that he was a manifestation, mirza yahya caused problems to bahaullah, he was in no wise a good man, how can a man such as mirza yahya be good, he did no good he showed no good and he was not faithful to bahaullah or the faith and yet you still believe in him. I don’t understand that after all that you still choose to follow that path. Mirza yahya had the opportunity to become a follower yet he chose to throw it away, how can someone such as himself who was close to bahaullah throw an opportunity like that away. He was jealous and ignorant, there always is a ignorant person, I can’t understand why he would want to hurt bahaullah or the faith, if he didnt like bahaullah or the faith he could of at least not involved himself in it. Instead of causing all these problems for everyone, what god has set and sent down will be achieved I can guarantee you that, if it is gods will it will happen eventually the whole world will be unified and will be Baha’is, steadfast bahais that a steadfast in the covenant and hopefully do not follow in the footsteps of mirza yahya. I hope you read this extremely long message with great thought and given it a hard thinking, sleep on it, do what ever you want with it, I can only hope that you will become a Baha’i that is firm in the covenant and steadfast with the laws of bahaullah and his teachings
NaserMar 14, 2011 03:47 AM
I thank you for your humble comments.
I really have sympathy for Haifan Baha’is like you who are completely brainwashed. When the Haifan Bahai Administration (HBA) is not allowing to read you the authentic Babi material. How can you pass a judgment by reading only those censored Haifan Books. Please do justice to yourself. If you really believe in IIOT (Independent…..truth) then do visit http://bayanic.com/, do read the crimes committed by Baha’u’llah and his goons in the early days.
Because the HBA says you so about Subh’i’Azal and because it have so many chapters dedicated to him in your Ruhi Course, you have become blind. Open your eyes.
Baha’i faith was not, is not and will never be united. There are two UHJs one Based in ISRAEL and the other in US. Where is your unity?
There are so many guardians and they have so many followers and all are saying that your Haifan UHJ is bogus without a guardian. Isn’t that mentioned in your writings.
7 Million baha’is is a Joke. Were are these 7 millions? Which country. Scattered here a there a few people does not make 7 million.
you need to see this :
Awake from your sleep. They will snatch all your money in the name of funds and huququllah. Beware.
AnonymousMar 18, 2011 07:16 PM
Are you crazy or something THERE ARE 7 MILLION BAHAIS IN THE WORLD!!!! You want me to name the countries ok here we GO!!! AMERICA. AUSTRLIA, CHINA, CANADA, RUSSIA, THAILAND, IRAN, ISRAEL, KOREA, BRAZIL, PORTUGAL, GHANA, ENGLAND, FRANCE, ITALY, GERMANY, SWITZERLAND, NEWZEALAND, ETC…
READ YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING.
THERE ARE NOT TWO UHJS YOU SOUND LIKE A SMART PERSON, TOO BLODDY BAD YOUR GETTING THE WRONG INFORMATION. THERE ARE MORE BAHAIS THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. WANNA KNOW WHY BECAUSE BAHAULLAHS FAITH WILL NOT STOP GROWING BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE DERRANGED ARE STOPPING IT. IT IS GODS WILL AND IT WILL BE ACHIEVED, HE WILL BE VICTORIOUS OVER ALL, IT IS GODS WILL AND IT WILL BE ACHIEVED. Where the hell did you get many guardians from there is and was only one SHOGHI EFFENDI GRANDSON OF ABDULBAHA AND GREATGRANDSON OF BAHAULLAH, NOT YOUR STUPID COVENANT BREAKERS WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE THE NEXT GUARDIAN. YOU TURN SOMETHING THAT IS WONDERFUL INTO SOMETHING THAT HAS NO MEANING WHATS SO OVER. NO YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND CLOSE THAT DAMNN MOUTH OF YOUR AND USE YOUR EARS TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING USEFUL LIKE WHAT IM SAYING.
AND GET OVER THE RUHI BOOKS YOU TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT GET OVER IT!!!! mirza yahya screwed everything up he DIDNT WRITE ANY TABLETS HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO CAUSE UNITY AND HE WAS NOT THE SUCCESSOR OF THE BAHAI FAITH. AFTER YOU THINK OF REPLYING ABOUT WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID DONT EVEN THINK OF WRITING “YES BUT HE DID DO SOME GOOD THINGS” YEH WELL GUESS WHAT SOME IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND WILL NEVER BE AND I CANT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT GOOD HE WOULD OF DONE AT ALL.
THE INFORMATION YOU ARE GETTING IS A LOAD OF LIES AND FALSE.
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, TOO LATE TO RECREATE YOUR FATE!!!!!
NaserMar 20, 2011 12:07 AM
“Are you crazy or something”
I may be crazy in the blinded eyes of Haifan cultist like you.
The actual crazies are the Brainwashed people like you, who are believing in the body of those nine elected (or selected?) members to be infallible. How can a sane person believe to me a body of nine normal individuals to be manifestation of God for this age?
“We don’t want to be like those people who want to see God with their own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice.” – Bahai Counselor Rebeque Murphy
more can be found here
You are Crazy and Blind and Deaf.
Now regarding 7 Million Baha’is?
How many Baha’is are there in those countries? Don’t blindly believe in what is being said to you by those Pseudo Gods. They say you 7 million and u believe without any proof? You are really too submissive. Ask them proof. You haven’t visited this blog i think, do visit please :
There are 2 UHJs and this is a fact. You cannot deny. Boothe these UHJs are fighting with each other. Isn;t this true? Why you deny?
Tell me if you believe in this UHJ?
Baha’u’llah’s faith has started rotting. It has become stagnant many are leaving the faith. Why there is so much opposition to the Haifan UHJ? Are these all people the agents of Iranian Intelligence as told to you by your RUHI TUTOR.
They are controlling your mind. Think independently. read this article. EXIT BY TROOPS
“LISTEN TO SOMETHING USEFUL LIKE WHAT IM SAYING”
What is useful in your saying. Junk. Everything without proofs. Just damn claims.
“mirza yahya screwed everything up he DIDNT WRITE ANY TABLETS HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO CAUSE UNITY AND HE WAS NOT THE SUCCESSOR OF THE BAHAI FAITH.”
Read this from the true authentic Babi Sources (Uncensored)
Baha’u’llah was a fraud and so the cult established by him.
See this for more understanding.
Happy Persian New Year to you. Happy Navrooz.