How Cults Work ??

Cults, wonderful on the outside but on the inside are very manipulating. Cult leaders are desperate to trick you into joining. They are after your obedience, your time and your money.

Cults use sophisticated mind control and recruitment techniques that have been refined over time. Beware of thinking that you are immune from cult involvement, the cults have millions of members around the world who once thought they were immune, and still don’t know they are in a cult! To spot a cult you need to know how they work and you need to understand the techniques they use.

Teaching you these things is what this article is all about.This article exposes the secret techniques cults will use to try and trick and control you. Cult leaders will not want you to read this, but read it anyway. Once you understand How Cults Work you will be better able to spot and avoid cult recruiters, and protect your family and friends.First let’s eliminate some misconceptions about cults.

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http://www.howcultswork.com/


Query over Baha’u’llah’s station !

How can the Bahai Faith say  that all of the Manifestations of God have absolute equality among them and in another statement Baha’u’llah is the Supreme Manifestation of God.  Surely this is a total contradiction. How can one be equal and supreme at the same time.

“According to Bahá’u’lláh , all of the Manifestations of God have the same metaphysical nature and the same spiritual stature. There is absolute equality among Them. No one of Them is superior to another.
http://www.bahai.org/article-1-4-0-3.html

 Lights of Guidance page 471 (No 1550) states the following:

No prophet in the same Category as Baha’u’llah.
“there are no prophets, so far in  the same Category as Baha’u’llah, as he culminates a grest cycle begun with Adam”. (From a letter written on behalf of the Guardian to the NSA of Australia and new Zealand, December 26, 1941 Letter from the Guardian to Australia and New Zealand,p. 41)

No !551 Baha’u’llah has appeared in God’s Greatest name.

” By Greatest name is meant that Baha’u’llah has appeared in Gods greatest name , in other words, that He is the Supreme Manifestation of God”

(ibid, p 41)

There are many logical contradictions that try the faith of Baha’is who are just trying to be faithful but are hampered by these logical absurdities. This is only one of many and not the main one that seems to have been ignored by the community as a whole.

Unfortunately, and maybe it only concerns westerners who place a higher value on logic and reason, one can only find meaning in these declarations of doctrine by having to fall back to viewing them as just hyperbole.

Here is another query regarding Baha’u’llah’s station. In this tablet the Manifestation even allows for himself be seen from two views. But he then’s forbids anyone to argue over his station. There are some Baha’is who believe Baha’u’llah is God himself.

A Tablet of Mirza Husayn `Ali Baha’u’llah to Jamal-I Burujirdi:
A Full Provisional Translation with Persian Text trans. Khazeh Fananapazir

http://bahai-library.org/provisionals/burujirdi.html

More Confusions :

Was not the Bab the fulfillment of the Shi’ite Islamic doctrine the coming of the Mahdi (the hidden Imam).

But where does the Bab fit into the Christian prophesy to fulfill the station of the second coming of Christ?

If Both the Bab and Baha’u’llah are equally the “Second coming of Christ” then they both  must equally be the Mahdi and and the hidden Imam also?

But if Baha’u’llah is the a “Supreme Manifestation of God” as is stated in the “light of Guidance”  he then holds a superior station than the Bab.


Comments on Rise of Apostasies from Baha’i Faith!!

Greetings,

I have noticed for the past few years on the Internet the rise in the number of people leaving bahaism.  I have seen about 30 people since 1998 leave bahaism , not including the manmore people who left bahaism I came across on the Internet.

I would like for ex bahais to explain why they left the bahai cult and what they believe is the future of bahaism.

First Comment :

I became a Baha’i while in college.  My roommate was a member and I was always impressed with his demeanor.  I began participating in the community and learned the Faith’s basic principles – the basics about the Bab, Bahau’llah, Abdul Baha, the Guardianship, equality between men and women, unity of religion, etc. – before I declared.

Shortly after I declared, I noticed that there was a lot of “interest” or “emphasis” or “pressure” to teach.  This rubbed me the wrong way for two reasons: first, I wanted to build a personal relationship with God.  If the focus is placed on teaching and on the administrative side of the Faith, there was no time (given the usually small size of the Baha’i communities)to study texts and for deepening.

 The second reason is somewhat related to the first: I did not feel I knew enough about the Faith to go out and “teach.”  I am a firm believer in learning as much as you can about a topic if you want to talk about it and be credible.  In hindsight, I am convinced I’m correct about this.
Many of the questions I was asked about the Faith after I dropped out I would not have been able to answer beyond “Huh? HEEEEELP!!!”
Questions like “how come women cannot be members of the UHJ?” or “where’s your Guardian?  Isn’t it strange that one of the two central structures your prophets and divinely-inspired leaders put forth is moot because there’s no Guardian?”  or “how do you reconcile the Baha’i Faith’s goal of establishing a federation of nations with the spiritual nature of Christ’s kingdom (“my kingdom is not of this earth”)?

Less than a year after I declared, I graduated from college and moved away.  Far away.  The Baha’i community I joined was also very “interested” in teaching.  That, and the fact that I no longer had any of the familiar faces around me eventually made me lose interest in participating.

That’s why I left.  Here’s why I chose not to return.

  Imagine my shock and surprise when I started seeing on the Internet the reports about Bahai’s being driven out of the Faith under alleged threats of being declared Covenant Breakers(I will use “alleged” because there appears to be only a he-said-he-said record of the things that transpired).  Thanks to the ‘net, I discovered that an innocent e-mail (the infamous Majnun post) triggerd the irrational ire and fury of the powers that were.  Thanks to the ‘net, I found “A Modest Proposal,” and to this day I do not know what about that document was so controversial that drove many to rebuke and condemn it instead of opening a discussion with its authors.  And I also learned of others who, like me, dropped out because Baha’i life did not satisfy them spiritually.

What does the future hold for the Baha’i Faith?  I don’t know.  What I do know is that most people don’t join a religion because they want to be engaged doing material things like temples and arches, but to find a way to connect with God.  Until the Baha’i Faith understands that, it will be a steady-state religion, with new converts taking the place of dissilutioned ones.

El Loco

Second Comment :

I left it because I realized it is indeed a *cult* for the reasons stated here over the past three and a half years. As for its future: at this rate it has none other than how long its elite “investors” and financial benefactors decide to prolong its existence. Among its core constituency, many children of Iranian Baha’is are walking away completely from it in droves, and not just in the West, because it really does not have much to offer anyone anymore other family ties and the like. In terms of new enrollments it is completely stagnant. In a hundred years time or less, other than a footnote to history, unless there are radical internal reforms within (which seem unlikely, as the religion has completely straitjacketed itself doctrinally going back to its founders), baha’ism will in all likelihood disappear from the stage of history, just as Manichaeanism did before it. In short, I believe baha’ism is well into its process of implosion.

NEMO

 


Bahaism and its claims

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Baha’i Scandals in India

Courtesy : http://bahai-scandals.blogspot.com

Baha’is very often preach of high moral standard, love, peace and unity in their deceptive speeches and classes. These sermons are nothing but to fool the world and gain some well wishers and adherents for the dying Baha’i Faith.

The divorce, elopement extra marital affairs espionage manipulation all are day to day life of every Baha’is. Still they give long sermons of morality and spirituality taking for granted that the world is full of fools.

Writing open letters to political leaders and pressuring the politicians using their charms to speak for Baha’is and Baha’i Faith and then claiming that the Baha’is do not involve themselves in Politics is real politics.

There are number of scandals going on in Baha’i Faith which the Baha’is often talk amongst themselves. Thease are few examples which Baha’is have shared with us. Others have promised to send more:

Cunningness of Mr. Omid Seioshanseian

Cunningness of Counselor Omid to remove all the Maharastrians

ABMs in Maharastra

omid & mahvashIn the recently announced the list of ABMs for Maharastra, It was expected that Mr.Omid will replace Two Persian ABMs Mrs. Mahvash Rohani and Mrs. Marziya Dalal with Two another Persian ABMs Dr. Habibeh Javanmardi and Mrs. Parvaneh Javanmardi.

Now Maharastra is being controlled by three Persian ABMs Dr. Habibeh Javanmardi Mrs. Javanmardi and Mrs. Afsaneh Motiwalla. All in the good books of Mr. Omid. These three ABMs have three things in common, they are all Iranians, all three are ladies and all the three Iranian ABMS are for protection .Means they will safe guard the Faith from the attack of Covenant Breakers and Enemies of the Faith. Although maximum covenant Breakers are in Panchgani. The dissatisfied Persian Baha’is from Baha’i Administration.

The Indian ABMs Mr. Yogesh Garoud, Mr. Parimal Mahato, Mr. Jeewan Pagare and Mr. Avnish Sharmaare are for propagation of the Faith. They will have to run around, start children moral classes. Organize Study circles. Launch IPG

The surprise omission was of Mr. Dutta Sahu .It is not clear How did he felt out of grace inspite of having a Persian wife. May be Mr. Dutta must have started thinking that if you have a Persian wife you will reach the inner coitire of Cunning Persians. A mistake which Mr. Vasudeavan Nair, Mr. Jaya Putran, Mr. Ali Merchant made previously. A Persian wife means you should work for the Faith without any remuneration and you will be under surveillance 24 hrs through her.
Mrs. Dutta a Persian is very faithful to the Cause and she must have been made an ABM.

The Local Maharastrians who are made ABMs will have short lived happiness and any moment they will be replaced. By appointment of local to the post of ABMs is for the deceiving of the locals. One thing should be very clear of the locals that no Indians are trusted by the Persian Baha’is. This is the confidential Message of Universal House of Justice to the Persian Baha’is of the world. That unless you are 100% sure of a local does not give them any responsible post.

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Theology banned in the Baha’i Faith?

In reading the Baha’i stand on Baha’i theology I have to wonder if Baha’i theology itself has been banned by the Universal House of Justice.Would any Baha’i who expresses a theological view which is diverse from the personal religious interpretations of the members of the Universal House of Justice ever be allowed to freely express their own personal Baha’i religious interpretations?

Try picturing Christianity without Thomas Aquinas, without Saint Augustine, without Thomas a Kempis, Nicholas of Cusa, John of the Cross, Hans Kung, etc., etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of…an_theologians

Without it’s theologians Christianity would be creatively and intellectually impoverished. It appears that this is exactly what the Universal House of Justice wishes to do with the Baha’i Faith: impoverish it – Through actively limiting and censoring the expression of personal interpretation in the Baha’i Faith, any personal interpretation but their own that is.

Let’s take a closer look at what the Universal House of Justice actually said in it’s Baha’i theologian spiel:

In one recent instance, for example, an individual has declared himself a “Bahá’í theologian, writing from and for a religious community,” whose aim is “to criticize, clarify, purify and strengthen the ideas of the Bahá’í community, to enable Bahá’ís to understand their relatively new Faith and to see what it can offer the world”. Assertions of this kind go far beyond expressions of personal opinion, which any Bahá’í is free to voice. As illustrated, here is a claim that lies well outside the framework of Bahá’í belief and practice.

“Assertions of this kind go far beyond expressions of personal opinion”

Yet they failed to even mention what Sen had actually stated in the beginning of his forward:

“This book presents my own understanding of the Bahai teachings”

I’m not sure how Sen could have been any clearer in stating that his book presented his: “own understanding”.

What the Universal House of Justice is not only implying in this letter but enforcing through it’s excommunication of Sen is that Baha’i theology will not be allowed unless that Baha’i theology mirrors the personal interpretations of what the members of that Universal House of Justice personally believe Baha’i theology should be. As well any Baha’i who desires to be a Baha’i theologian will have to conform to the unwritten requirements for Baha’i theology of the UHJ or risk being summarily and without any forewarning excommunicated. Such absolute interpretive power was never granted the Universal House of Justice.

Whatever happened to the supposedly central Baha’i principle of the independent search for the truth? The Universal House of Justice has single handedly done away with it in this narrow minded threat against all who would dare to call themselves a Baha’i theologian. If you cannot see what a chilling effect such a threat has on the intellectual life of a religious community I truly feel sorry for you.

As well the Universal House of Justice makes this assertion: “here is a claim that lies well outside the framework of Bahá’í belief and practice.” Just exactly what that Sen stated is: “outside of the framework of Baha’i belief and practice”, ? And just exactly where were the members of the UHJ given the authority to be interpreters and arbiters of what constitutes: “Baha’i belief and practice”?

They didn’t even have the courage or courtesy to say exactly which Baha’i beliefs and practices Sen was guilty of contravening. Why? Because they are cowards.

Cheers

Larry Rowe



Juan R.I Cole & Dr. Sa’id Khan Kurdistani on the Baha’is

Professor Juan Cole, February 23, 1999:

“There is nothing to be puzzled by. Right wing Baha’is only like to hear the sound of their own voices (which are the only voices they will admit to being “Baha’i” at all). Obviously, the world is so constructed that they cannot in fact only hear their own voices. They are forced to hear other voices that differ from theirs. This most disturbs them when the voices come from enrolled Baha’is or when the voices speak of the Baha’i faith. The way they sometimes deal with the enrolled Baha’is is to summon them to a heresy inquiry and threaten them with being shunned if they do not fall silent. With non-Baha’is or with ex-Baha’is, they deal with their speech about the faith by backbiting, slandering and libelling the speaker. You will note that since I’ve been on this list I have been accused of long-term heresy, of “claiming authority,” of out and out lying (though that was retracted, twice), of misrepresentation, of ‘playing fast and loose with the facts,’ and even of being ‘delusional.’ I have been accused of all these falsehoods by *Baha’is*, by prominent Baha’is. I have been backbitten by them. This shows that all the talk about the danger a sharp tongue can do, all the talk about the need for harmony, for returning poison with honey, for a sin-covering eye, is just *talk* among right wing Baha’is. No one fights dirtier than they when they discover a voice they cannot silence and cannot refute….”

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole71.htm (Who’s computer is this?)

From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 and 89 quoted by William McElwee Miller in The Baha’i Faith: It’s History and Teachings, 1973, p. 289.

“…There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha’is], they keep to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the leader and the led…As to morality and honesty, the whole system has proved disappointing…I have been in contact with many Baha’is, and have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in the full sense of these words…”

Dr Sa’eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician…who had as a doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha’is in Tehran and Hamadan.