Interesting Debate between Ex- Bahai and Haifan Bahais on Youtube

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Payam Mashrequi 4 months ago

AHAHAHAHAHA!!! YOU WASTED ALL YOUR TIME DOING THIS!??!!! PLEASE DUDE!!

DEFINITION OF BAHAI : THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN BAHA’ULLAH AND ABDUL BAHA AS HIS DECEDENT, THEN SHOGHI EFFENDI AS HIS AND UHJ AS HIS… THESE OTHER SECTS MAY EXIST BUT THEY AREN’T CONSIDERED BAHAIS AND YEAH OTHER THAN THESE ONES THEY ARE COVENANT BREAKERS AKA NOT A BAHA’I.. WHATS WITH THIS LONG STORY, STOP READING CRAP FROM THE INTERNET DUDE!

P.S. IF U DIDN’T APPROVE THIS COMMENT OF MINE, MSG ME. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 4 months ago

Thank you for your concern for me and my time. You are so good. The UHJ without a guardian as its chairperson is FAKE and BOUGS. It has no authority. Show me from the writings of Hossein Ali and Abbas Effendi where they clearly say that the UHJ will not have a guardian. Let’s see… if you have a clear proof. Read this article it is very important for you :

“Who Created the sects in Bahai Faith?” Google it and read it! Then come back here, we will discuss. I have many proofs to prove you wrong.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 4 months ago

And I do not reply to private messages. So write it here or come to my blog and put ur comments there. I do not censor comments.

Bahaism 6 months ago

Thank you Ron. I respect you. You seems to be a very decent person. Normally I interact with Fundamentalist Baha’is, their behavior is really very ugly and unbearable. This is the first time I am encountering a resolved Haifan like you! As you said that you are approaching 70 years, I wish you best for your remaining life. May you be guided towards the right path ‘Seratal Mostaqeem’. You are always welcome to my blog. I assure you we can have polite discussion. Best Regards
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

Dear Ron, I thank you for your concerns towards me. I have already left this cult. I am no more interested in this Hypocritical cult. I don’t correspond on emails. And I am really not interested in those 50 books of 80000 words. I really hate when any Baha’i speaks of numbers. 80000 words, millions bahais, most widespread religion, I really hate all this. You are most welcome to visit my blog (bahaism*blogspot*com) and write to me there. There is unlimited space and good atmosphere for everyone.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

Thank you. Ron.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

I have never heard of any divine religion that is registered under the ‘COMPANIES ACT’ or NGO in any country, its holy symbols registered as ‘TRADEMARKS’, Its holy writings COPYRIGHTED. It’s prophet’s name a ‘BRAND NAME’.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

Regarding the Christian Encyclopedia… Again when you want to prove something scholarly, please prove is from the best and most authentic source. I consider official Government Census of every country to be the best and most reliable source, which is not influenced by anything. And if these groups (Other Baha’i Sects) are really very leas and not bothering anybody then why drag them to Courts over alleged misuse of Baha’i Trademarks?
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

..so the fear makes them away from Questioning the institutions, otherwise I am a witness that there are many baha’is who do not accept the authority of UHJ as it is to be accepted. They do not consider the UHJ to be infallible. They see Mullah’ism in Baha’i cult, Religious Police interfering in private life of Baha’i card carrying members. They are fed-up with the administration but they do not dare to speak due to fear… that is why the number of Opposition Groups is less…
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

Because you talked about numbers, I have to take this issue too. The actual Haifan Baha’is are very less and so the opponents also very less in numbers. The practice of Shunning, Social Boycott and breaking of family ties are very strict punishments. Those born Baha’is fear all this stuff. Mr. Hosein Ali Nari said : Whatsoever hath led the children of men 2 shun 1 another, & hath caused dissensions & divisions amongst them, hath, through d revelation of these words, been nullified & abolished.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

So, Sir, For you Wikipedia is more reliable than the Government Census?! See this bahaicensusindia*blogspot*com (change asterisk to dot).
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

Again your number of 100 thousand is a joke. Where are 100 Thousand Baha’is please prove with credible evidences. Preferably Government documents. For your information please see this : bahaicensusindia*blogspot*com (change asterisk to dot).
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

…Baha’is, they are all Hindus. They still believes in their Gods. Their are some Sikhs and they too wear their turbans and call them Baha’is. I visited Golistans in India’s major cities and I saw a very few graves with dates some 10 years old some 20 years old and a few 1 or 2 years old. Where r believers of Baha’u’llah? They r not even in Golistans!. They are only in the SRPs. 100s new addresses are entered every month but 1000s have already left by then. You guys claim 2.2 million in India.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 6 months ago

You are right Ron. It gives publicity to everyone. I am an Ex-Baha’i and I have traveled to many parts of the world and visited many Baha’i communities when I was active. What I noticed was there were ‘NO BAHA’IS’ in the world. When I say No Baha’is, it means a very few Baha’is. scattered here and there. I visited Wilmette Temple and there was no one there. Not even a single visitor. I was alone with my friend. The country where there r some Baha’is is India. But u know they are not actually….
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MrSIKREV1 .

MrSIKREV1 . 7 months ago

are the baha’is liars that want too take over the world?

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Bahaism

Bahaism 11 months ago

And It is Haifan UHJ that has deviated majority of Baha’is according to other denominations. Have you ever bothered to read their literature? I have read it and how logical it is!!!! It is this deviated haifan UHJ that has put prohibition on the Baha’is to read their literature. The so called proponents of “Independent Investigation of Truth”!!!!
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Bahaism

Bahaism 11 months ago

iranians know that. If you are a Western Baha’i then you are being fooled by these people. In fact they are exploiting your simplicity and extracting you money and using your energy for their political gains. Where is the “complete translation” of the book BAYAN? Why it is not available? If you read it fully, you will understand why muslims hate this evil cult.
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Anis Ettehadulhagh

Anis Ettehadulhagh 1 year ago

There is only one God, one Baha’i Faith, (from Bab to Universal House of Justice) and one human race. Ya Baha’u’llah-Abha!

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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

There is only one God = TRUE

One Baha’i Faith = FALSE

One Human Race = TRUE

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DivineFellowship

DivineFellowship 1 year ago

BahaiFace●com
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OneWorldBore

OneWorldBore 1 year ago

I like the Reform Baha’is and the Aqdasi Baha’is the best.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

okay do not answer to personal messages and i’m not a extremist Baha’i you moron I’m a Atheist who sees rationality in the Baha’i faith, you should approve the quote of the holy koran that i let you as comment, it seems that the only think you know how to do is pick and choose, as for me, i will stop bother myself discussing something with a person like you, I hope Baha’u’llah and your “God” had mercy upon you.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I will not call you a moron. May be you are taught to use this kind of words in your Ruhi Book 8 with those who do not agree with your views. And I don’t want do discuss Koran here. If you want to discuss Koran and its Verses please go to some Islamic Forum and have an open discussion. What I am repeatedly trying to say you is to come to my blog and have a discussion on Baha’i faith. You choose a topic and discuss that particular issue. Please.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

This is what you wrote to me in your personal message : “let’s go to a Baha’i forum that is had not being created by you, there I will challenge the stupidities written in your blog and you can challenge my faith with what in the writings is call “poison” XD”

My response :

I told you not to send any personal messages, I don’t respond to it. But this is something I would like to respond to. I and my friends have posted many times on such Forums that…
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

… are controlled by Baha’is, but they delete our posts and Ban us. They even make a lobby against us when we are on Christian forums or any other forums. If you are really sincere in having a good debate then please come to a platform that is neither controlled by me or my friends or the BIC. You can come to – talk.religion.bahai – usenet group which is a neutral platform and have a debate. Let’s see your sincerity. & why are u afraid to comment on my Blog?
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dannyOdr

dannyOdr 11 months ago

I agree with @TheNinjaMetalero rather that looking at very small statements within the baha’i writings take all the writings and they situation in which they were written into consideration. Also these people that claim to be the leaders of the true “Baha’i” religion clearly don’t understand the teachings either, there is only one baha’i faith and thats it.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 11 months ago

My dear you don’t have access to original writings of Bab and Baha’u’llah. Do you access to the manuscripts of Bab and Bahaullah. How many writings of these two have been published by the UHJ? When was the first official translation of Kitab-i-Aqdas was completed? Aftwer how many years? Why not other books been translated? Why not the original manuscripts being published? The persians and the arabs can easily read the handwritings. Actually these writings are full of rubbish. The arabs and…..
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Anis Ettehadulhagh 1 year ago

There is only one God, one Baha’i Faith, (from Bab to Universal House of Justice) and one human race. Ya Baha’u’llah-Abha!

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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

There is only one God = TRUE

One Baha’i Faith = FALSE

One Human Race = TRUE

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DivineFellowship

DivineFellowship 1 year ago

BahaiFace●com
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OneWorldBore

OneWorldBore 1 year ago

I like the Reform Baha’is and the Aqdasi Baha’is the best.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I do not reply to personal messages. And if you can take it down, show me. Lets see. The BIA is trying to do this from a long time. But no success. And I have complete backup of my blog. If in any case you guys gained success then I will Restore this backup to alteast 100 places, you see. Thank you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

okay do not answer to personal messages and i’m not a extremist Baha’i you moron I’m a Atheist who sees rationality in the Baha’i faith, you should approve the quote of the holy koran that i let you as comment, it seems that the only think you know how to do is pick and choose, as for me, i will stop bother myself discussing something with a person like you, I hope Baha’u’llah and your “God” had mercy upon you.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I will not call you a moron. May be you are taught to use this kind of words in your Ruhi Book 8 with those who do not agree with your views. And I don’t want do discuss Koran here. If you want to discuss Koran and its Verses please go to some Islamic Forum and have an open discussion. What I am repeatedly trying to say you is to come to my blog and have a discussion on Baha’i faith. You choose a topic and discuss that particular issue. Please.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

This is what you wrote to me in your personal message : “let’s go to a Baha’i forum that is had not being created by you, there I will challenge the stupidities written in your blog and you can challenge my faith with what in the writings is call “poison” XD”

My response :

I told you not to send any personal messages, I don’t respond to it. But this is something I would like to respond to. I and my friends have posted many times on such Forums that…
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

… are controlled by Baha’is, but they delete our posts and Ban us. They even make a lobby against us when we are on Christian forums or any other forums. If you are really sincere in having a good debate then please come to a platform that is neither controlled by me or my friends or the BIC. You can come to – talk.religion.bahai – usenet group which is a neutral platform and have a debate. Let’s see your sincerity. & why are u afraid to comment on my Blog?
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dannyOdr

dannyOdr 11 months ago

I agree with @TheNinjaMetalero rather that looking at very small statements within the baha’i writings take all the writings and they situation in which they were written into consideration. Also these people that claim to be the leaders of the true “Baha’i” religion clearly don’t understand the teachings either, there is only one baha’i faith and thats it.
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Bahaism 1 year ago

This is what you wrote to me in your personal message : “let’s go to a Baha’i forum that is had not being created by you, there I will challenge the stupidities written in your blog and you can challenge my faith with what in the writings is call “poison” XD”

My response :

I told you not to send any personal messages, I don’t respond to it. But this is something I would like to respond to. I and my friends have posted many times on such Forums that…
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

… are controlled by Baha’is, but they delete our posts and Ban us. They even make a lobby against us when we are on Christian forums or any other forums. If you are really sincere in having a good debate then please come to a platform that is neither controlled by me or my friends or the BIC. You can come to – talk.religion.bahai – usenet group which is a neutral platform and have a debate. Let’s see your sincerity. & why are u afraid to comment on my Blog?
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

@TheNinjaMetalero

This is called as Extremism. You are an extremist Haifan Baha’i.

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

what i’m going to do with your blog is take it down if you keep insisting, that nonsense is that, Nonsense.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

“Surely for those who have disbelieved, it is all the same whether you warn them or you warn them not: they would not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes there is a covering; and for them there lies a mighty punishment.” [2:6-7] so my friend, suffer with your own seal, i’ll pray for you to understand the spiritual reality of the Baha’i faith and I hope you can forget the material stupidity of your “Opinions”
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

This is for you :

Bahá’u’lláh, in all the Tablets and Epistles, forbade the true and firm friends from associating and meeting the violators of the Covenant of His Holiness, the Báb, saying that no one should go near them because their breath is like the poison of the snake that kills instantly.

(Bahá’í World Faith, p. 430)
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Read this also

bahaism.blogspot.com/2009/12/h­ypocrisy.html
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

And you see I never ever delete any comment. You are most welcome to comment on my blogs. Let us understand each other but please on the blog. Select any post and start your discussion. Thank you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

who are you to judge whether you are a baha’i or not, The koran say’s it clearly, the true believers are only known for God and also Baha’u’llah comes and tells the same, those who summit their will to God and his revelations are the true muslims, the true Baha’is, not those who summit themselves to arrogant humans like you or the followers of you idiotic play. this is getting tired, I just going to quote the koran and i’ll leave you in your missery ^^.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Here comes you, the true face of Baha’ism ‘idiotic’ and ‘misery’. You call yourself good crop but this are not the signs of a good ‘card carrying’ member of the Baha’i International Inc. Network Marketing Company. I requested you to come to my blog and have a debate. But if you want to run from Youtube, its your wish.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

I had never call myself good crop i’m as bad as anyone, the different is that investigate and try to understand the good things unlike you who just rejects it and never try to understand.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Please come to my blog to discuss further. I have presented all that I found in Bahaism. You can also visit my ‘scribd’ page to download more Bahai related stuff, If you really like the investigation. Humbly yours
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I again request you to come to my blog and post your comment on my blog under any post that you feel is not proper or would like to debate on that particular post. I am ready to clarify you. All my views and why I hate your cult is posted there and I think youtube is not the right platform to debate because of its limitations. Please come on my blog. Thank you.
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Bahaism 1 year ago

I am sorry but the he (Mr. Baha) could not change his followers how can he change others. Read the stories of corruption, scandals, Election Scams, Huququllah Scams, Sexual Scams, Hypocrisy, Racism, Shundamendalism, Divorce and supremacy in your community. Go to my blog and read all the posts. There are more than 200 posts all accompanied with proofs. Thank you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

mm okay, let me ask you, when you have field of crops, and 1% of then is rotten because they are weak, because they didn’t accepted the nutrients from the fertilizer(the writings and God), and they die, but you have this 99% of good and healthy crops, which one would you eat, the stupid, weak, materialistic and rotten crops that didn’t accept the truth and just regretted it or the one’s that gave you fruits? then one’s that took the good minerals of the fertilizer?.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I beg to disagree about the percentage. The good crop as u call yourself is 1% and 80% crops are fake. There are no crops (Baha’is) these are paper Baha’is or Inactive Baha’is. No Crops at all.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

People makes mistakes, people are disobedience and when you are disobedience you get what you ask for, i myself as baha’i that i’m sometimes i can’t help but segregate myself, to criticize, to politicize, but every day I try to change that, and that is through Baha’u’llahs writings, and as you said there are more than 200 post, believe the old world religions including the Babi faith has million more of that.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Even your so called “Manifestation of God” made many serious mistakes. So I don’t believe in him. You can comment on my blog please. I will really appreciate if you come there as there are more than around 200 pageviews daily and many people will benefit from our debate. Please comment on my blog. Thank you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Get this, “It is our nature to make mistakes, we are the only rational animals and yet, we are the only ones who make the same mistake twice while being conscious of it, but if we strive, if we follow the writings, with faith, love and respect we will not fail again.”, I recommend you try that and you will find joy, I’m curious to know what moves you to hate the Baha’i faith so much, please, please let me know what were your true selfish and greedy reasons..
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Again, I don’t know what the Baha’i faith ever done to you, but if this faith is hypocrite so is all the faith and religions in the world, the difference is that this one, at least treat you with decency and sees you as equal. I do wonder what was so bad that you hate the Baha’i faith so much.
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Bahaism 1 year ago

Baha’is and their supreme leaders did never believed in absolute equality. Visit my blog and search the term hypocrisy. You can comment on my blog for a detailed and long debate as Youtube does not permit entering URLs and has ‘Word Limits’ for comments.

You are welcome to debate with me on my blog, please.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

now the baha’i faith it is indeed a religion, a pretty well organized religion, if you look at it as a cult, well that is your problem, I’m not a Baha’i because I believe in God, or in Baha’u’llah, or in the UHJ, I’m a Baha’i because i identify myself with the principles of this faith, now, you can call me friend, that’s good as friend I debate and respect your belief as long as you don’t insult me, but don’t be hypocrite telling me that you love someone that disagrees with you.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Baha’i faith is still not a religion. I disagree. Please go to my blog and read my entry with the heading “Why Baha’i faith is a Cult”.
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TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Wheter Baha’u’llah is a messenger or not, I don’t care, His writings are powerful enough to change people and just because of that I’ll be parrt of it.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Good if you don’t care then Its OK. I don’t have problems with Baha’u’llah if he is not the Manifestation of God. There are many people who write and speak good. It is a good thing to read good stuff. But keep your eyes and mind open. Don’t let hypocrisy capture your mind. Baha’ism is Hypocirsy 100%
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Again, I don’t know what the Baha’i faith ever done to you, but if this faith is hypocrite so is all the faith and religions in the world, the difference is that this one, at least treat you with decency and sees you as equal. I do wonder what was so bad that you hate the Baha’i faith so much.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

that is the blog where i read all the nonsense and stupidity of the “Bayanies” and others sects or cults that automatically call themselves “Baha’is”.. is so childish to compare, i’m not a Iranian Baha’i, I’m a Atheist/Agnostic towards the believe if God, but I do recognize the Baha’i Faith a true religion, and the only one that had show me to be rational in this world, my faith(if I have one) is not in the people but in the writings of Baha’u’llah.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

You see my friend, If you are really sincere then I love you. This Blog is not the place where you can read all the critical stuff. Please read the Original Bayani Stuff from their website which is bayanic . com, if you want to read about the sects and want to debate about their beliefs please go to their respected websites and debate. I am convinced about your religion that it is no more than a cult and a really Hypocritical Cult.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

now the baha’i faith it is indeed a religion, a pretty well organized religion, if you look at it as a cult, well that is your problem, I’m not a Baha’i because I believe in God, or in Baha’u’llah, or in the UHJ, I’m a Baha’i because i identify myself with the principles of this faith, now, you can call me friend, that’s good as friend I debate and respect your belief as long as you don’t insult me, but don’t be hypocrite telling me that you love someone that disagrees with you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Mentaly blind!?? one thing is to just talk all the crap you want and debate if is right or not to believe in the UHJ, and the other is to recognize the good that many Baha’i, according to what the UHJ says have done, people like you are not different from philosophers who the only think they know is as Russell says have two faiths, one they preach and one they practice. you’reyour self a Baha’i is not because of the UHJ or because of the Guardianship, but Because of Bah’au’llah
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for me is a Manifestation of Devil ! OK Mr.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for you can’t be the Mohammed himself or Moctezuma, or a Djinn, or another crazy dude, but you got recognize what ever he started has change a lot of people, for best of humanity, well you and your kind are the only exception
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I am sorry but the he (Mr. Baha) could not change his followers how can he change others. Read the stories of corruption, scandals, Election Scams, Huququllah Scams, Sexual Scams, Hypocrisy, Racism, Shundamendalism, Divorce and supremacy in your community. Go to my blog and read all the posts. There are more than 200 posts all accompanied with proofs. Thank you.
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TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Mentaly blind!?? one thing is to just talk all the crap you want and debate if is right or not to believe in the UHJ, and the other is to recognize the good that many Baha’i, according to what the UHJ says have done, people like you are not different from philosophers who the only think they know is as Russell says have two faiths, one they preach and one they practice. you’reyour self a Baha’i is not because of the UHJ or because of the Guardianship, but Because of Bah’au’llah
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for me is a Manifestation of Devil ! OK Mr.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for you can’t be the Mohammed himself or Moctezuma, or a Djinn, or another crazy dude, but you got recognize what ever he started has change a lot of people, for best of humanity, well you and your kind are the only exception
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

You need to visit this my dear Iranian Baha’i Friend, do visit please

bahaism . blogspot . com (remove spaces)
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

that is the blog where i read all the nonsense and stupidity of the “Bayanies” and others sects or cults that automatically call themselves “Baha’is”.. is so childish to compare, i’m not a Iranian Baha’i, I’m a Atheist/Agnostic towards the believe if God, but I do recognize the Baha’i Faith a true religion, and the only one that had show me to be rational in this world, my faith(if I have one) is not in the people but in the writings of Baha’u’llah.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

You see my friend, If you are really sincere then I love you. This Blog is not the place where you can read all the critical stuff. Please read the Original Bayani Stuff from their website which is bayanic . com, if you want to read about the sects and want to debate about their beliefs please go to their respected websites and debate. I am convinced about your religion that it is no more than a cult and a really Hypocritical Cult.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

now the baha’i faith it is indeed a religion, a pretty well organized religion, if you look at it as a cult, well that is your problem, I’m not a Baha’i because I believe in God, or in Baha’u’llah, or in the UHJ, I’m a Baha’i because i identify myself with the principles of this faith, now, you can call me friend, that’s good as friend I debate and respect your belief as long as you don’t insult me, but don’t be hypocrite telling me that you love someone that disagrees with you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Wheter Baha’u’llah is a messenger or not, I don’t care, His writings are powerful enough to change people and just because of that I’ll be parrt of it.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Good if you don’t care then Its OK. I don’t have problems with Baha’u’llah if he is not the Manifestation of God. There are many people who write and speak good. It is a good thing to read good stuff. But keep your eyes and mind open. Don’t let hypocrisy capture your mind. Baha’ism is Hypocirsy 100%
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Again, I don’t know what the Baha’i faith ever done to you, but if this faith is hypocrite so is all the faith and religions in the world, the difference is that this one, at least treat you with decency and sees you as equal. I do wonder what was so bad that you hate the Baha’i faith so much.
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TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

that is the blog where i read all the nonsense and stupidity of the “Bayanies” and others sects or cults that automatically call themselves “Baha’is”.. is so childish to compare, i’m not a Iranian Baha’i, I’m a Atheist/Agnostic towards the believe if God, but I do recognize the Baha’i Faith a true religion, and the only one that had show me to be rational in this world, my faith(if I have one) is not in the people but in the writings of Baha’u’llah.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

You see my friend, If you are really sincere then I love you. This Blog is not the place where you can read all the critical stuff. Please read the Original Bayani Stuff from their website which is bayanic . com, if you want to read about the sects and want to debate about their beliefs please go to their respected websites and debate. I am convinced about your religion that it is no more than a cult and a really Hypocritical Cult.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

now the baha’i faith it is indeed a religion, a pretty well organized religion, if you look at it as a cult, well that is your problem, I’m not a Baha’i because I believe in God, or in Baha’u’llah, or in the UHJ, I’m a Baha’i because i identify myself with the principles of this faith, now, you can call me friend, that’s good as friend I debate and respect your belief as long as you don’t insult me, but don’t be hypocrite telling me that you love someone that disagrees with you.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Wheter Baha’u’llah is a messenger or not, I don’t care, His writings are powerful enough to change people and just because of that I’ll be parrt of it.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Good if you don’t care then Its OK. I don’t have problems with Baha’u’llah if he is not the Manifestation of God. There are many people who write and speak good. It is a good thing to read good stuff. But keep your eyes and mind open. Don’t let hypocrisy capture your mind. Baha’ism is Hypocirsy 100%
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I am not mentally blind like you. You people are spiritually and mentally blind. Just follow those sucking UHJ messages and read those boring childish RUHIs.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Mentaly blind!?? one thing is to just talk all the crap you want and debate if is right or not to believe in the UHJ, and the other is to recognize the good that many Baha’i, according to what the UHJ says have done, people like you are not different from philosophers who the only think they know is as Russell says have two faiths, one they preach and one they practice. you’reyour self a Baha’i is not because of the UHJ or because of the Guardianship, but Because of Bah’au’llah
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for me is a Manifestation of Devil ! OK Mr.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Baha’u’llah for you can’t be the Mohammed himself or Moctezuma, or a Djinn, or another crazy dude, but you got recognize what ever he started has change a lot of people, for best of humanity, well you and your kind are the only exception
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Bahaism 1 year ago

If you have read then you have not obeyed your Lord Mr. Baha’u’llah. Your older Lord (Mr. Baha) and the Universal House of Lords forbids the reading of CB material and forbids to interact with Bayanis. Mr. Baha considers the Breath of CBs to be poisonous, do you know that? Then why you read CB stuff. I will term the RUHI’s to be childish. And there cannot be an evil administration like the Baha’i administration because in 21st Century it does now allow women its membership. Shame on you Haifans
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duckotaco 1 year ago

baha’is have locked independent investigation of truth in the basement. No way it’s coming back.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

you think independent investigation comes when you read the baha’is writings?, I read philosophy more than i read the Baha’is writings, I read the holy writings of other religions more than the Baha’i writings, not for the sake of just learning but of understanding the Baha’i faith itself, unlike you who closest one eye to the spiritual world and the one true God, your father and creator, I open that eye to understand and to learn about him.
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

Wow you done Ruhi book 8..!! damn I haven’t even finish book 4 and I can see the nonsense that you guys preach XD..
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I have also completed my Book 9 😉
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TheNinjaMetalero

TheNinjaMetalero 1 year ago

have you learn a lot .. can’t to get to that..
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BookOfFlaws

BookOfFlaws 1 year ago

No need to “twist and turn” the teachings when you can just suppress the “Most Holy Book” for the first 150 years and not let anybody read it! And then, get translators (finally) who filter and soften it. And then abrogate and loophole your way out of most of what’s in it. Oh, and you can go around saying “These are the 10 basic principles of the faith” when “equality of men and women” does not exist in the founding scriptures, but praise of martyrdom is all over them. Talk about tiwsting.
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BookOfFlaws

BookOfFlaws 1 year ago

Fascinating! Quite amazing. It seems like the Baha’i Faith is the faith that doesn’t work. The Bab appointed Mirza Yayah as successor (who looks like a nicer guy than Be-Ha by the way), and that was a bust. The Baha’is were so busy killing, stabbing, or poisoning Babis who wouldn’t accept Be-Ha has divine, the government had fits with that crowd. Be-ha appointed his son, and that was a bust with AB ousting the one appointed. Shoghi Effendi was supposed to have a son, but that was a bust, too.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 1 year ago

I totally agree with you. Thank you for your comment.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

You are mad !
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John Pilz 2 years ago

It is funny that everyone tries to gather power for themselves in every religion. The Bahá’í Faith, based in the arc of Bahá in Haifa, Israel, is the only one that does not twist and turn the Bahá’í Writings. It is so confusing to read the writings of the “bahai sects.” Why do people waste so much time making so much up about conspiracies?

How come the people belonging to “bahai sects” try to act secretive when trying to infiltrate Bahá’í Communities? Bahá’ís don’t do that to Covenant Breakers.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

Firstly it is not funny. It is a serious matter that a fake covenant breaker administrative body comes to power and rules the Baha’i world. Secondly they true writings of Baha’u’llah and Abdol Baha clearly states that the UHJ without a guardian is invalid. You must read the actual, full versions of will and testament of Abdol Baha and the writings of Baha’u’llah where he clearly states that their will be guardians in the future and if Bahai faith does not have guardian then their will
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

be confusion amongst the Baha’is in the future and the covenant of Baha’u’llah will be destroyed. This happened when Shoghi Effendi was murdered by some persons for the benefit of a certain group. Then a body of 9 members was formed to play with 19% of the savings of Baha’is. This body is totally invalid as per the Baha’i writings. Read the writings of Orthodox Baha’is very simple, what is confusing to you? Tell me I will try to explain you. I don’t know if any of the sect is act in..
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

or openly. Bcoz I am not a Baha’i. There are many centers of Orthodox Baha’is, Unitarian Baha’is, there is one UHJ in Montana, and the Baha’is of Jacques Soghomonian all have valid addresses and they can be contacted. You can also contact Fredrick Glaysher who is the head of Reform Baha’i faith. I don;t think there is any secrecy. All the haifans are actually confused by the Ruhi Course, book no. 8. I think you have done that book so you are confused.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

And Baha’is do that with other people. You need to study how many of the Azalis were killed during the early days by the followers of Baha’u’llah, the manifestation of GOD???????
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John Pilz

John Pilz 2 years ago

Bahá’ís don’t kill other people, otherwise, they are fakes. Being Bahá’í isn’t a mere name – it describes an individual who follows the laws sent down by God. Killing is forbidden. The Bahá’ís that killed anyone else willingly broke the covenant with God – to follow His laws. Now, because they were forgiven after they asked for it doesn’t mean that the Bahá’í Faith is to be blamed for its disobedient followers.

The Azalis and the people who killed the Azalis broke God’s laws.
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Chris Cobb

Chris Cobb 2 years ago

We’re not worried or threatened just annoyed and offended by the covenant breaker usurpation of the term. Those sects barely exist, they might as well not-they exert no influence and serve no purpose, Orthodox and Reform Baha’is are frankly a joke. The real Baha’i faith continues as a united spiritual body unperterbed by the failed hijacking of covenant breaking userpers like Abdul Baha’s malicious brother or the prideful Sam Remey.
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

– There is nothing to get annoyed. All these sects although very small when compared to the Haifan sect, all believe in Baha’u’llah. They follow his teachings. Then what they must call themselves? Tell me. The followers of Baha’u’llah are called as Baha’i and the followers of Haifa Based UHJ are called as Haifan Baha’i. And you are a Haifan Baha’i.

For your information there is one one UHJ. Visit this website to learn more UHJ .NET
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Bahaism

Bahaism 2 years ago

– Dear Haifanated Baha’i friend, just google Orthodox Bahai or BUPC and check yourself if any other types of Bahai exist or not. If there are no other Baha’is (non-Haifan) then why the American NSA so worried about the trademarks of Baha’i faith. Who they have sued in the Chicago courts?
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